Le JDD - exclusive (English)

Photo by Rankin for Coco de Mer

Photo by Rankin for Coco de Mer

Hello, first of all. What do you make at the moment in Saint-Tropez? 

I’m here on an artist retreat- 

I have been drawing and painting- and writing my book The Sensual Revolution due out this fall- 

I always knew I’d end up in the South of France… Dreams come true … 

St Tropez is one of the places I’m spending time these days- I’m also in Paris and London quite a lot. 

Less and Less in America- Especially now that I’ve brought my Dog to France - My kids are grown and very independent.  they love that I’m finally in France and that they can come visit me here.  I see them more now than I did when we were all in LA - they are so busy traveling the world to- and make it a point to stop by and see mom- I love it-.

What relation do you maintain with France? What pleases you and displeases you in this country? 

I have done many photoshoots in the South of France— I remember my favorite shooting for Playboy was in St Tropez- and I’ve always wanted to come back— so here I am- 

I am starting a production company here- and an association within France that my foundation can align with that protects vulnerable people (like refugees) and vulnerable animals of France— 

I know it’s not popular of me but - I hope that cruel Foie Gras will be a thing of the past— If you knew how they tortured geese to make this- no-one could eat it with a good conscience.

What do you appreciate the French culture? What books? What records ? What movies of bedhead?

I love French Culture— I love Paris, I love french movies— Goddard is my favorite director— and, so many beautiful women and men in french cinema— they are all my idols—  Romy Schneider, Brigitte Bardot, Angelique (Michelle Mercier), Catherine Deneuve…

I love listening to Yves Montagne— I love his accent - this is how I’m trying to learn french-  I did learn french going to school in Canada… but, am just starting to not be so shy to speak it - 

On Sunday, while France will go to vote for its presidential elections, you wish to question to his candidates about the throwers of alert. What do you want to tell them?

I’ve been following the French election closely - as you know I support Julian Assange - some candidates have said they will grant he and Snowden citizenship - Mélenchon and Le Pen, Mélenchon has even mentioned The Legion of Honor for exposing the US interference in French election’s of the past - 

Mélenchon is vegetarian— he is a lover of animals and the environment— he is a breath of fresh air—

I’m curious of the positions of the other candidates Fillon and Macron in regards to Julian—  I want more than anything for Julian to reunite with his young family in France—

Why does it seem to you so important ? When the French throwers of alert, Antoine Deltour and Raphael Halet, who’re at the origin of the revelations on the scandal of tax evasion which stook the Luxembourg at the beginning of 2015, were brought to justice, some people blamed the French President François Hollande for not having taken stand in their favor. What do you think about it ? Which status, legal protection would it be necessary to offer to the thrower's of alert ?

Do you mean whistle blowers? If so this is a vital part of community— We need to know the truth- to make best decisions- and these people risk everything to share the truth- It is more important now than ever- 

How and where did you meet with Julian Assange?

I met Julian through our mutual friend Vivienne Westwood - I visited him at the Ecuadorian Embassy years ago- and have consistently visited him ever since… He is a great teacher.. our relationship is extraordinary - very difficult and personal to explain properly … 

Newspapers lend you a love affair. Do you confirm us ? What seduced you with him ? His qualities ? His defects ? What do you think of rumors to him of rape in Sweden ? Is it in your opinion an operation of destabilization? Since you are with him, how your life changed? Is it dangerous to live with the founder of WikiLeaks?

First of all there was no rape in Sweden - it was a preliminary investigation, no charges- yet highly politicized.. anyone that mentions the word rape next to his name is committing defamation- We are innocent till proven guilty -It was a case of a condom possibly breaking- that’s it- It is a ploy to extradite him to Sweden then to America- Where the grand jury is building a “secret” case against him— As you can see from the latest CIA/Pompeo meltdown about Wikileaks- He’s in unfair and great danger if extradited to the US.. He has exposed very powerful people who will stop at nothing to discredit him- or worse—  The UN has ruled 2x now that Julian is Illegally detained, he should be set free and compensated— he also will need protection— I think France is the best place for him - 

To return to the elections in France, you follow them a lot? If you had to vote today, which candidate you would choose? (You posted Jean-Luc Mélenchon’s video on the site of your foundation) 

Of course I would vote for Mélenchon … He is forward thinking and is a voice for concerned people - 

Anyone who cares about the environment or animals- or refugees.. that includes Julian (who has a young son in France who deserves a father)

You also called back the commitment of Marine Le Pen to grant the French citizenship to Julian Assange - if she was elected. Brigitte Bardot, whom you admire, supports her. And you? What do you think of this woman? She is fair, as you. Is it your only common point? 

I’m not a fan of Le Pen.. but, I am of Bardot— I know Bridgitte also supports Mélenchon and has said some kind things about him—  I do want Ms. Le Pen to reaffirm her position regarding Julian - It’s been awhile since she stated she would grant him citizenship- at very least I’d hope she’d keep her word on this issue- if elected.

One of last times when we saw you in France, it was in the hémicyle of the National Assembly about the animal cause (in particular the force-feeding of the gooses). Do we do better to hear when we are called Pamela Anderson? Is it necessary to have played in Alert in Malibu either to be fair with a sexy body so that the politicians listen to you?

I think you must use everything you are- to be successful-  

My priority has always been my children and I never paid close attention to the ‘image’ that was being created along next to my rock’n roll lifestyle- and career— I know Baywatch was quite popular all over the world- and it gave me the platform to discuss issues I care deeply about- I learned quickly that politics plays a big part in animal welfare— and this lesson taught me how to get things done - I’m sure people don’t necessarily want to hear from me- (or their perception of me) but- I have been quite successful campaigning for and creating animal welfare laws where there were none— I support many organizations that defend vulnerable women and men- I’ve dedicated my life to the causes I believe in and one of those causes are freeing Julian Assange who is trying to free the world by educating it— it is a romantic struggle and I love him for this-

I have spent many years working with Cool Earth and the Inga foundation in Latin America trying to save the rainforest and planting trees with my children— looking for alternatives to slash and burn agriculture etc—  

Julian mentioned to me- That Nuclear War would not be good for the environment— 

That put things into perspective quickly for me-  We need Wikileaks more than ever - Nuclear war is a real threat- Governments must be transparent and honest- in a war economy- 

We need to change to a green economy— 

Do you know what passed since?

Nothing that I know of— it’s a delicate subject— I hear even that young school children go on field trips to Foie Gras factories? My God- I’m already writing letters about this— how horrifying-

You also defended the cause of the migrants in Calais. Was François Hollande a good President? 

I’ve spent time in Calais and Dunkirk— it was life changing to see such innocent and polite children in such distress— I know people are afraid - but can you imagine yourself in their shoes- coming so far across land and sea— losing loved ones-  just to be ignored- or detained-  it’s inhuman— We must take a chance on human life— there are many reasons for the migrant crisis- part climate change part politics- and the US is responsible for much of it-

I am going to Calais next week to see for myself the damage of the fire— and bringing lots of fruits and vegetables— I’m meeting with the camp cook- 

Your fairness, is it a weapon?

I’m known for listening to opposing views - I think I am fair- I understand all sides- I see the fear , the questions,- but we must educate ourselves best we can- with true information- this is why Wikileaks is invaluable- the media has lost the plot it seems- 

I try to encourage people to eat less meat for instance—  

I understand it’s not for everyone to make such a bold choice to be vegan (as good for them as it would be)— It’s a process of better choices— to be happier and healthier— 

I apply everything i learn to everything I do- that’s the best I can do— or expect anyone else to do.

What scandalizes you in France? In the world? Last facts of current events? What you would want to denounce ?

I think this election is very important- I think people were caught off guard by Brexit and Trump - France doesn’t need to fall down the same mysterious hole-

 You can make a difference by voting for the future - France doesn’t seem to be such a puppet of America- it is very individual and strong— it would send a valuable message to the world- 

15) Are you in touch with politicians (dialogue, exchange, correspondence)?

No I’m not- but I think Melenchon is aware of my support— He has the support of all of my animal friends too

What looked like Pamela Anderson when she was a child girl?

I was a mischievous, creative child who loved animals- always plotting and scheming to save them — nothing has changed.

What were your models, your influences? What did you play?

My Grandfather was Finnish— I spoke with him in Finnish (as well as English) till he passed away when I was 11— 

He taught me about fairy tales, mythology — the importance of reading and writing— 

We also played a lot of poker-

According to your note Wikipedia, you knew a painful childhood, in particular several rapes. Was there anybody towards whom to turn you, a thrower of alert to break the silence?

I went through some difficult times as a child— I was molested by my female babysitter— It was confusing— as I got older I didn’t know what to say about it- because it was a woman— I think it made me hyper sexual- and it put me in dangerous places as a young girl which led an older man to take advantage of me— 

I became painfully shy.. I was approached by Playboy when I was 23 years old - and ,that helped empower me- in the places where I felt most vulnerable— I took my power back this way— 

Hefner changed my life—Playboy gave me confidence- I always say Playboy was my university— I met such fantastic artists, musicians— philanthropists— This is where I realized that I could help people and animals in some way— by bringing awareness- sharing the attention I was getting with something meaningful-

just to be brave and do it— 

How, did these traumas of childhood build your personality? 

I think it must have— but what it gave me was Nerve— If I’m going to be alive and on this planet- I’m going to be effective— and not whine about my circumstances— people have had it much worse than me- 

This body, which had been violenté, is your instrument of communication. What relation do you maintain with him? What looks like Pamela Anderson in his internal world? Your readings? Your thoughts? Your dreams? Your musics?

I write every day— I keep a journal— I’m a note taker—  I am constantly learning— and I surround myself with interesting people - people who are smarter and more talented than I - this is what keeps me alive and young-

Had you in the childhood a pet? And if yes, which one and how he was named? And today?

I had many childhood rescues— lots of cats, dogs, birds—  Today I have a big beautiful blonde dog name Zoubisoubisou 

And if you were an animal, which it would be?

I’d be some kind of exotic cat— People like to call me Puma- I’ve actually been a cat in my dreams-

What are your models today in the civil society ?  

Vivienne Westwood has an extreme influence on me and Julian Assange will not be forgotten in History— Leonard Peltier, Activists, Artists,— I am starting a foundation called TENURE- which will support Activist and their families over time— and this will most likely be purely funded by artists— Artists are not entrenched in the system they can support who they like without repercussion. 

On your Instagram are several Jean-Paul Belmondo’s photos. What do you admire at his man? About what man would you have dreamed to be? 

I would not want to be a man- I enjoy being everything female— though I insist on chivalry and the man making the first move—  

I love Jean Paul Belmondo- He looks a lot like my son Dylan - I’m sure Dylan will look like him as he gets older- so he’s a favorite of mine- always has been in the movie Breathless with Jean Seberg— when I cut my hair short- it was inspired by her— but, I’m glad my hair has grown back- that was an emotional experience— 

I think all women go through this-

What makes that we are a man, the truth, in 2017?

A man isn’t one surfing Tinder- that’s for sure- it’s awful - I would never date anyone who uses these apps- 

It is too easy and boring- We do need a sensual revolution- it is an awkward time— The sexual revolution gave us many freedoms- but also gave us empty, robotic- and unimaginative sex— addiction to porn etc— We must look at ourselves and our bad habits— I’m hoping it’s a phase and we can return to the times you might brush against someone on the bus- lock eyes- and know that that person is the one you are meant to be with— and stay with them forever, grow old together— sadly there is an epidemic of loneliness-

In 2017, you go to celebrate your 50 years. Are you close to the woman that you want to be? 

I’m where I expected to be- I’ve finished building my home in Malibu that took my 10 yrs to complete—

 I rent it out now so that I can dedicate all my time to the causes I believe in- and travel- 

it was my plan- and it took perseverance and faith- no-one believed I could do it- but me.

What anybody would you have dreamed to be (Marilyn Monroe or Simone de Beauvoir)? 

No- I think I’ve created my own dream

What looks like the life today of Pamela Anderson? Your days? Your definition of the pleasure and the luxury? Who are your friends (Paul Watson? Brigitte Bardot?) 

Paul Watson, Julian Assange, Vivienne Westwood, Ed Ruscha, Richard Prince, David LaChapelle — 

I’m surrounded by artists and Activist- and my boys Brandon who is an actor and Dylan, a musician- 

and luxury for me is that I don’t need anything—

 If I never buy another handbag or pair of shoes I’d be fine— I have so much— 

I just shop and reshop in my own closet/storage—

if you buy only a few good pieces a year- they never go out of style and at 50 you end up having a lot- too much-

As mother, as tell your children so that they are better? 

To respect women- To allow yourself to fall in love even if it means heartbreak- not to be lazy— work hard every day to get one step closer to your dreams- and to count your blessings— typical mom stuff- 

You are Countesse by Giglio for your commitment with the marine animal cause in Montenegro. 

What it offers as advantages to be a countess?

I’m flattered - I was honored for my work defending marine life in the Mediterranean.- 

What image would you want that we keep of you? The sentence which would define you best? 

Simply, 

That I was a good girl :)